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The Real Cost of Attending A Football Game

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO ATTEND A FOOTBALL GAME? Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question - they just can't afford it. Not only are ticket prices astronomically high, but ordering food, drinks, and souvenirs for the whole family at a game will set you back a pretty penny. THE FAMILIAL COST OF FANDOM From an ice cold beer to a tasty hot dog, everyone going to the game wants the full NFL experience. But don't be too hasty; the costs for your family of four will add up quickly. THE TOTAL COST OF FAMILIAL FAN-DOM INCLUDES O NFL AVERAGE COSTS $ Amount per item (% of total spent) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 80 AVERAGE PRICE TICKET $77.36 (72%) PARKING SPACE $25.92 (6%) Total cost for a family of four in 2011: GAME PROGRAM $4.03 (2%) $427.42 SMALL BEER $7.13 (3%) Includes: 4 average price tickets, 1 parking space 2 game programs, 2 small beers 4 small soft drinks, 4 hot dogs 2 adjustable caps SMALL SOFT DRINK $4.40 (4%) HOT DOG $4.78 (5%) ADJUSTABLE CAP $16.55 (8%) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 $80 "Face Value O HISTORICALLY SPEAKING Prices over the past six years have risen consistently $500 $427.42 $420.54 $412.64 $400 $396.36 $367.31 $346.16 $300 $200 . $100 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO SEE YOUR HOME TEAM? We've determined the average cost to see an NFL game, but those who live in certain regions will pay considerably more than the average, while others will pay considerably less. $500-$600 TEAM NAME $ TOTAL COST Under $350 $350-$400 $400-$500 Above $600 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS $402.38 CLEVELAND BROWNS $330.90 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS $597.26 DETROIT LIONS $365.61 BUFFALO BILLS $358.75 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS $452.34 CINCINATTI BENGALS $401.15 MINNESOTA VIKINGS $395.78 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES $391.50 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS $440.66 GREEN BAY PACKERS $429.83 NEW YORK JETS $629.90 OAKLAND RAIDERS $368.90 DENVER BRONCOS $402.51 CHICAGO BEARS $557.18 NEW YORK GIANTS $592.26 BALTIMORE RAVENS $486.19 PITTSBURGH STEELERS $419.28 WASHINGTON REDSKING KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $366.64 $441.43 ARIZONA CARDINALS $367.10 ORIZONA ST. LOUIS RAMS $408.47 DALLAS COWBOYS $613.80 TENNESSEE TITANS $370.20 CAROLINA PANTHERS $341.27 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS $435.20 ATLANTA FALCONS $391.64 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $319.06 TAMPA BAY BUCANEERS $378.28 HOUSTON TEXANS $403.60 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS $419.96 MIAMI DOLPHINS $396.27 O TICKET RESALE PRICES AVERAGE RESALE PRICE OF TICKETS BY TEAM Didn't get your tickets from the box office? The average resale ticket price is quite a bit higher than the actual face value. It is also a good indicator of how well a team is expected to do during the season-higher resale prices mean they are slated to perform well. Here are the top five and bottom five teams based on resale prices. 1.NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS >$291 2. CHICAGO BEARS >$238 ........... ................ 3. GREEN BAY PACKERS $227 4. DALLAS COWBOYS $221 5. PITTSBURGH STEELERS $219 >$92 28. ST. LOUIS RAMS 29, CLEVELAND BROWNS $88 30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $87 31. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $86 32. BUFFALO BILLS $83 $100 $200 $300 Emint.com SOURCES: TEAMMARKETING.COM | SEATGEEK.COM HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO ATTEND A FOOTBALL GAME? Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question - they just can't afford it. Not only are ticket prices astronomically high, but ordering food, drinks, and souvenirs for the whole family at a game will set you back a pretty penny. THE FAMILIAL COST OF FANDOM From an ice cold beer to a tasty hot dog, everyone going to the game wants the full NFL experience. But don't be too hasty; the costs for your family of four will add up quickly. THE TOTAL COST OF FAMILIAL FAN-DOM INCLUDES O NFL AVERAGE COSTS $ Amount per item (% of total spent) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 80 AVERAGE PRICE TICKET $77.36 (72%) PARKING SPACE $25.92 (6%) Total cost for a family of four in 2011: GAME PROGRAM $4.03 (2%) $427.42 SMALL BEER $7.13 (3%) Includes: 4 average price tickets, 1 parking space 2 game programs, 2 small beers 4 small soft drinks, 4 hot dogs 2 adjustable caps SMALL SOFT DRINK $4.40 (4%) HOT DOG $4.78 (5%) ADJUSTABLE CAP $16.55 (8%) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 $80 "Face Value O HISTORICALLY SPEAKING Prices over the past six years have risen consistently $500 $427.42 $420.54 $412.64 $400 $396.36 $367.31 $346.16 $300 $200 . $100 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO SEE YOUR HOME TEAM? We've determined the average cost to see an NFL game, but those who live in certain regions will pay considerably more than the average, while others will pay considerably less. $500-$600 TEAM NAME $ TOTAL COST Under $350 $350-$400 $400-$500 Above $600 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS $402.38 CLEVELAND BROWNS $330.90 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS $597.26 DETROIT LIONS $365.61 BUFFALO BILLS $358.75 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS $452.34 CINCINATTI BENGALS $401.15 MINNESOTA VIKINGS $395.78 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES $391.50 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS $440.66 GREEN BAY PACKERS $429.83 NEW YORK JETS $629.90 OAKLAND RAIDERS $368.90 DENVER BRONCOS $402.51 CHICAGO BEARS $557.18 NEW YORK GIANTS $592.26 BALTIMORE RAVENS $486.19 PITTSBURGH STEELERS $419.28 WASHINGTON REDSKING KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $366.64 $441.43 ARIZONA CARDINALS $367.10 ORIZONA ST. LOUIS RAMS $408.47 DALLAS COWBOYS $613.80 TENNESSEE TITANS $370.20 CAROLINA PANTHERS $341.27 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS $435.20 ATLANTA FALCONS $391.64 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $319.06 TAMPA BAY BUCANEERS $378.28 HOUSTON TEXANS $403.60 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS $419.96 MIAMI DOLPHINS $396.27 O TICKET RESALE PRICES AVERAGE RESALE PRICE OF TICKETS BY TEAM Didn't get your tickets from the box office? The average resale ticket price is quite a bit higher than the actual face value. It is also a good indicator of how well a team is expected to do during the season-higher resale prices mean they are slated to perform well. Here are the top five and bottom five teams based on resale prices. 1.NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS >$291 2. CHICAGO BEARS >$238 ........... ................ 3. GREEN BAY PACKERS $227 4. DALLAS COWBOYS $221 5. PITTSBURGH STEELERS $219 >$92 28. ST. LOUIS RAMS 29, CLEVELAND BROWNS $88 30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $87 31. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $86 32. BUFFALO BILLS $83 $100 $200 $300 Emint.com SOURCES: TEAMMARKETING.COM | SEATGEEK.COM HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO ATTEND A FOOTBALL GAME? Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question - they just can't afford it. Not only are ticket prices astronomically high, but ordering food, drinks, and souvenirs for the whole family at a game will set you back a pretty penny. THE FAMILIAL COST OF FANDOM From an ice cold beer to a tasty hot dog, everyone going to the game wants the full NFL experience. But don't be too hasty; the costs for your family of four will add up quickly. THE TOTAL COST OF FAMILIAL FAN-DOM INCLUDES O NFL AVERAGE COSTS $ Amount per item (% of total spent) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 80 AVERAGE PRICE TICKET $77.36 (72%) PARKING SPACE $25.92 (6%) Total cost for a family of four in 2011: GAME PROGRAM $4.03 (2%) $427.42 SMALL BEER $7.13 (3%) Includes: 4 average price tickets, 1 parking space 2 game programs, 2 small beers 4 small soft drinks, 4 hot dogs 2 adjustable caps SMALL SOFT DRINK $4.40 (4%) HOT DOG $4.78 (5%) ADJUSTABLE CAP $16.55 (8%) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 $80 "Face Value O HISTORICALLY SPEAKING Prices over the past six years have risen consistently $500 $427.42 $420.54 $412.64 $400 $396.36 $367.31 $346.16 $300 $200 . $100 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO SEE YOUR HOME TEAM? We've determined the average cost to see an NFL game, but those who live in certain regions will pay considerably more than the average, while others will pay considerably less. $500-$600 TEAM NAME $ TOTAL COST Under $350 $350-$400 $400-$500 Above $600 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS $402.38 CLEVELAND BROWNS $330.90 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS $597.26 DETROIT LIONS $365.61 BUFFALO BILLS $358.75 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS $452.34 CINCINATTI BENGALS $401.15 MINNESOTA VIKINGS $395.78 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES $391.50 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS $440.66 GREEN BAY PACKERS $429.83 NEW YORK JETS $629.90 OAKLAND RAIDERS $368.90 DENVER BRONCOS $402.51 CHICAGO BEARS $557.18 NEW YORK GIANTS $592.26 BALTIMORE RAVENS $486.19 PITTSBURGH STEELERS $419.28 WASHINGTON REDSKING KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $366.64 $441.43 ARIZONA CARDINALS $367.10 ORIZONA ST. LOUIS RAMS $408.47 DALLAS COWBOYS $613.80 TENNESSEE TITANS $370.20 CAROLINA PANTHERS $341.27 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS $435.20 ATLANTA FALCONS $391.64 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $319.06 TAMPA BAY BUCANEERS $378.28 HOUSTON TEXANS $403.60 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS $419.96 MIAMI DOLPHINS $396.27 O TICKET RESALE PRICES AVERAGE RESALE PRICE OF TICKETS BY TEAM Didn't get your tickets from the box office? The average resale ticket price is quite a bit higher than the actual face value. It is also a good indicator of how well a team is expected to do during the season-higher resale prices mean they are slated to perform well. Here are the top five and bottom five teams based on resale prices. 1.NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS >$291 2. CHICAGO BEARS >$238 ........... ................ 3. GREEN BAY PACKERS $227 4. DALLAS COWBOYS $221 5. PITTSBURGH STEELERS $219 >$92 28. ST. LOUIS RAMS 29, CLEVELAND BROWNS $88 30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $87 31. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $86 32. BUFFALO BILLS $83 $100 $200 $300 Emint.com SOURCES: TEAMMARKETING.COM | SEATGEEK.COM HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO ATTEND A FOOTBALL GAME? Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question - they just can't afford it. Not only are ticket prices astronomically high, but ordering food, drinks, and souvenirs for the whole family at a game will set you back a pretty penny. THE FAMILIAL COST OF FANDOM From an ice cold beer to a tasty hot dog, everyone going to the game wants the full NFL experience. But don't be too hasty; the costs for your family of four will add up quickly. THE TOTAL COST OF FAMILIAL FAN-DOM INCLUDES O NFL AVERAGE COSTS $ Amount per item (% of total spent) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 80 AVERAGE PRICE TICKET $77.36 (72%) PARKING SPACE $25.92 (6%) Total cost for a family of four in 2011: GAME PROGRAM $4.03 (2%) $427.42 SMALL BEER $7.13 (3%) Includes: 4 average price tickets, 1 parking space 2 game programs, 2 small beers 4 small soft drinks, 4 hot dogs 2 adjustable caps SMALL SOFT DRINK $4.40 (4%) HOT DOG $4.78 (5%) ADJUSTABLE CAP $16.55 (8%) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 $80 "Face Value O HISTORICALLY SPEAKING Prices over the past six years have risen consistently $500 $427.42 $420.54 $412.64 $400 $396.36 $367.31 $346.16 $300 $200 . $100 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO SEE YOUR HOME TEAM? We've determined the average cost to see an NFL game, but those who live in certain regions will pay considerably more than the average, while others will pay considerably less. $500-$600 TEAM NAME $ TOTAL COST Under $350 $350-$400 $400-$500 Above $600 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS $402.38 CLEVELAND BROWNS $330.90 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS $597.26 DETROIT LIONS $365.61 BUFFALO BILLS $358.75 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS $452.34 CINCINATTI BENGALS $401.15 MINNESOTA VIKINGS $395.78 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES $391.50 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS $440.66 GREEN BAY PACKERS $429.83 NEW YORK JETS $629.90 OAKLAND RAIDERS $368.90 DENVER BRONCOS $402.51 CHICAGO BEARS $557.18 NEW YORK GIANTS $592.26 BALTIMORE RAVENS $486.19 PITTSBURGH STEELERS $419.28 WASHINGTON REDSKING KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $366.64 $441.43 ARIZONA CARDINALS $367.10 ORIZONA ST. LOUIS RAMS $408.47 DALLAS COWBOYS $613.80 TENNESSEE TITANS $370.20 CAROLINA PANTHERS $341.27 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS $435.20 ATLANTA FALCONS $391.64 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $319.06 TAMPA BAY BUCANEERS $378.28 HOUSTON TEXANS $403.60 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS $419.96 MIAMI DOLPHINS $396.27 O TICKET RESALE PRICES AVERAGE RESALE PRICE OF TICKETS BY TEAM Didn't get your tickets from the box office? The average resale ticket price is quite a bit higher than the actual face value. It is also a good indicator of how well a team is expected to do during the season-higher resale prices mean they are slated to perform well. Here are the top five and bottom five teams based on resale prices. 1.NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS >$291 2. CHICAGO BEARS >$238 ........... ................ 3. GREEN BAY PACKERS $227 4. DALLAS COWBOYS $221 5. PITTSBURGH STEELERS $219 >$92 28. ST. LOUIS RAMS 29, CLEVELAND BROWNS $88 30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $87 31. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $86 32. BUFFALO BILLS $83 $100 $200 $300 Emint.com SOURCES: TEAMMARKETING.COM | SEATGEEK.COM HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO ATTEND A FOOTBALL GAME? Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question - they just can't afford it. Not only are ticket prices astronomically high, but ordering food, drinks, and souvenirs for the whole family at a game will set you back a pretty penny. THE FAMILIAL COST OF FANDOM From an ice cold beer to a tasty hot dog, everyone going to the game wants the full NFL experience. But don't be too hasty; the costs for your family of four will add up quickly. THE TOTAL COST OF FAMILIAL FAN-DOM INCLUDES O NFL AVERAGE COSTS $ Amount per item (% of total spent) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 80 AVERAGE PRICE TICKET $77.36 (72%) PARKING SPACE $25.92 (6%) Total cost for a family of four in 2011: GAME PROGRAM $4.03 (2%) $427.42 SMALL BEER $7.13 (3%) Includes: 4 average price tickets, 1 parking space 2 game programs, 2 small beers 4 small soft drinks, 4 hot dogs 2 adjustable caps SMALL SOFT DRINK $4.40 (4%) HOT DOG $4.78 (5%) ADJUSTABLE CAP $16.55 (8%) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 $80 "Face Value O HISTORICALLY SPEAKING Prices over the past six years have risen consistently $500 $427.42 $420.54 $412.64 $400 $396.36 $367.31 $346.16 $300 $200 . $100 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO SEE YOUR HOME TEAM? We've determined the average cost to see an NFL game, but those who live in certain regions will pay considerably more than the average, while others will pay considerably less. $500-$600 TEAM NAME $ TOTAL COST Under $350 $350-$400 $400-$500 Above $600 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS $402.38 CLEVELAND BROWNS $330.90 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS $597.26 DETROIT LIONS $365.61 BUFFALO BILLS $358.75 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS $452.34 CINCINATTI BENGALS $401.15 MINNESOTA VIKINGS $395.78 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES $391.50 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS $440.66 GREEN BAY PACKERS $429.83 NEW YORK JETS $629.90 OAKLAND RAIDERS $368.90 DENVER BRONCOS $402.51 CHICAGO BEARS $557.18 NEW YORK GIANTS $592.26 BALTIMORE RAVENS $486.19 PITTSBURGH STEELERS $419.28 WASHINGTON REDSKING KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $366.64 $441.43 ARIZONA CARDINALS $367.10 ORIZONA ST. LOUIS RAMS $408.47 DALLAS COWBOYS $613.80 TENNESSEE TITANS $370.20 CAROLINA PANTHERS $341.27 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS $435.20 ATLANTA FALCONS $391.64 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $319.06 TAMPA BAY BUCANEERS $378.28 HOUSTON TEXANS $403.60 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS $419.96 MIAMI DOLPHINS $396.27 O TICKET RESALE PRICES AVERAGE RESALE PRICE OF TICKETS BY TEAM Didn't get your tickets from the box office? The average resale ticket price is quite a bit higher than the actual face value. It is also a good indicator of how well a team is expected to do during the season-higher resale prices mean they are slated to perform well. Here are the top five and bottom five teams based on resale prices. 1.NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS >$291 2. CHICAGO BEARS >$238 ........... ................ 3. GREEN BAY PACKERS $227 4. DALLAS COWBOYS $221 5. PITTSBURGH STEELERS $219 >$92 28. ST. LOUIS RAMS 29, CLEVELAND BROWNS $88 30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $87 31. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $86 32. BUFFALO BILLS $83 $100 $200 $300 Emint.com SOURCES: TEAMMARKETING.COM | SEATGEEK.COM HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO ATTEND A FOOTBALL GAME? Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question - they just can't afford it. Not only are ticket prices astronomically high, but ordering food, drinks, and souvenirs for the whole family at a game will set you back a pretty penny. THE FAMILIAL COST OF FANDOM From an ice cold beer to a tasty hot dog, everyone going to the game wants the full NFL experience. But don't be too hasty; the costs for your family of four will add up quickly. THE TOTAL COST OF FAMILIAL FAN-DOM INCLUDES O NFL AVERAGE COSTS $ Amount per item (% of total spent) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 80 AVERAGE PRICE TICKET $77.36 (72%) PARKING SPACE $25.92 (6%) Total cost for a family of four in 2011: GAME PROGRAM $4.03 (2%) $427.42 SMALL BEER $7.13 (3%) Includes: 4 average price tickets, 1 parking space 2 game programs, 2 small beers 4 small soft drinks, 4 hot dogs 2 adjustable caps SMALL SOFT DRINK $4.40 (4%) HOT DOG $4.78 (5%) ADJUSTABLE CAP $16.55 (8%) $10 $20 $30 $40 $50 $60 $70 $80 "Face Value O HISTORICALLY SPEAKING Prices over the past six years have risen consistently $500 $427.42 $420.54 $412.64 $400 $396.36 $367.31 $346.16 $300 $200 . $100 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO SEE YOUR HOME TEAM? We've determined the average cost to see an NFL game, but those who live in certain regions will pay considerably more than the average, while others will pay considerably less. $500-$600 TEAM NAME $ TOTAL COST Under $350 $350-$400 $400-$500 Above $600 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS $402.38 CLEVELAND BROWNS $330.90 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS $597.26 DETROIT LIONS $365.61 BUFFALO BILLS $358.75 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS $452.34 CINCINATTI BENGALS $401.15 MINNESOTA VIKINGS $395.78 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES $391.50 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS $440.66 GREEN BAY PACKERS $429.83 NEW YORK JETS $629.90 OAKLAND RAIDERS $368.90 DENVER BRONCOS $402.51 CHICAGO BEARS $557.18 NEW YORK GIANTS $592.26 BALTIMORE RAVENS $486.19 PITTSBURGH STEELERS $419.28 WASHINGTON REDSKING KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $366.64 $441.43 ARIZONA CARDINALS $367.10 ORIZONA ST. LOUIS RAMS $408.47 DALLAS COWBOYS $613.80 TENNESSEE TITANS $370.20 CAROLINA PANTHERS $341.27 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS $435.20 ATLANTA FALCONS $391.64 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $319.06 TAMPA BAY BUCANEERS $378.28 HOUSTON TEXANS $403.60 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS $419.96 MIAMI DOLPHINS $396.27 O TICKET RESALE PRICES AVERAGE RESALE PRICE OF TICKETS BY TEAM Didn't get your tickets from the box office? The average resale ticket price is quite a bit higher than the actual face value. It is also a good indicator of how well a team is expected to do during the season-higher resale prices mean they are slated to perform well. Here are the top five and bottom five teams based on resale prices. 1.NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS >$291 2. CHICAGO BEARS >$238 ........... ................ 3. GREEN BAY PACKERS $227 4. DALLAS COWBOYS $221 5. PITTSBURGH STEELERS $219 >$92 28. ST. LOUIS RAMS 29, CLEVELAND BROWNS $88 30. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS $87 31. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS $86 32. BUFFALO BILLS $83 $100 $200 $300 Emint.com SOURCES: TEAMMARKETING.COM | SEATGEEK.COM

The Real Cost of Attending A Football Game

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Few things say "America" more than the NFL. Unfortunately, for many Americans, taking their family to a game is nearly out of the question — they just can't afford food, drinks and souvenirs for everyone.

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